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     Micky Baruq Member Username: Micky75 Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2005 |
I have an good italian pipe an Anatra with a large bowl and a Dunhill Grpup 3 so smaller bowl. And when i smoke VA in dunhill pipe, he is very good, sweet, full aroma and when i smoked it in the anatra, he is less sweeter, less flavour, not very good. Is it the large bowl? Or is it the briar quality? Or do you have some advices? | ||
| david goliath Member Username: Fritzin Post Number: 162 Registered: 07-2005 |
It is to me undoubtably the size the of inner bowl and length of stem/shank that effects it's overall smoking elements. My large bore pipe 15/16ths" 6" long smokes much cooler and tasty than my 5/8ths" pipe. Lighter tobaccos as a rule of thumb like medium and small pipes, heavier or more complex blends like larger and longer pipes. Try a heavy English in a churchwarden sometime...great smoke. Thickness of briar you'll find has a lot more to do with how hot the pipe gets with little or no cake yet(fear not if you have a thin pipe, just get that cake built up). If the outer finish seems wax like then it should 'breath' well. If the briar can not breath the moisture will not travel from the inside out and instead snap, crackle, and pop. | ||
| robert cane Member Username: Pipe_dreams Post Number: 272 Registered: 05-2005 |
Many Virginias are of the flake variety. A flake pipe should NOT be large in size (dunhill group 3 is excellent) they smoke hotter and are moister (flakes) meaning, the bigger the bowl, the more compromised the flavor and taste on the bottom of the bowl will become, and the more taxing to the smoker. They also last longer (flakes) so as the smoke becomes almost twice as long as a non flake, and I don't have the time , besides the fact I would prefer to smoke two bowls in a group three than one bowl of a larger size. Bowl shape comes very much into play here, as a billiard will have an upright chamber that runs the same size diameter from top to bottom. The flake being more difficult to burn evenly and consistently make this an important factor. All the billiard's 'cousins', the apple, bulldog, dublin, pot, will work as long as the diameter is not too large. 'Bad' shapes include zulu, horn, especially if the bowl has a forward cant. Stack (chimney) Oom paul. In a large chamber,(regerdless of shape) the lit ember that is ideally in the central chamber will not produce enough heat to reach out and burn tobacco that may be 13mm away. I hope this makes sense, remember, shape and size are keys in smoking flakes. | ||
| Melvin S. Schwartz Board Administrator Username: Schwartz Post Number: 3058 Registered: 02-2002 |
Robert, I have smoked Virginia flake tobacco in large bowls and there was no problem with heat or moisture. The only difference I noticed between a Group 4 and Group 5 was it took me longer to finish the pipe. | ||
| robert cane Member Username: Pipe_dreams Post Number: 273 Registered: 05-2005 |
I have always believed the pressing process for flake chemically alters the ingredient tobaccos by marrying them and transforming them into a new entity that is different from the sum of the individual characteristics of each. It is true that the more you rub pressed/flake tobaccos out, the more similar they become to unpressed tobbacos. For eg. they will NOT burn as slowly as when smoked un-rubbed, or whole pressed tobaccos. Although, they will never burn as fast or effortlessly as unpressed tobaccos.(mixtures) | ||
| Bill Garmon Member Username: Wbill Post Number: 91 Registered: 11-2004 |
To me a smaller bowl pipe, group 3 or 4, in a billiard form brings out the flavor of a rich tobacco, like McClelland's 2015, more so than a larger one. I find myself smoking slower from the smaller bowl than I would if the pipe was larger and enjoying it more. It could be that I'm just not rushing myself to finish all the tobacco of a large bowl pipe. Bill | ||
| Rev. Paul Shaw Member Username: The_grim_reaper Post Number: 39 Registered: 08-2005 |
Micky. My experience is that I enjoy a larger bowl with a Virginia flake. For me, the flavor seems a lot better if not more revealing. I have recently acquired six "large bowl" pipes brand new, mainly for Va flakes. The one that is most troublesome is a bowl with a slender edge. But, I'm experimenting. Perhaps, I need to be patient to build up a good cake as David shares. Robert, My experience, in some ways seems to be different from yours. As Melvin shares, "it took me longer to finish". If you enjoy the tobacco, the length shouldn't matter. I enjoy English blends in a smaller bowl. My favourite is 965. It is, for me, always a delightful smoke from top to bottom. For Virginia's, especially flaked, I don't believe a small bowl can do them justice. For me, there is an interesting complexity in flaked virginias that just doesn't come through in a smaller bowl. For example, 965 for me, always seems amazing in a smaller or larger bowl. But for Virginias, for me, I have discovered, that a larger bowl reveals its "quirks" and complexities over time. This is IMHO. -Paul | ||
| Micky Baruq Member Username: Micky75 Post Number: 27 Registered: 08-2005 |
Thanks for your response. But my question now: What is the solution for my Anatra? Because she was reserved for Va and VA/Perique. Take it for aromatic? Or considere her like a bad pipe forever? May be i can precise that she is nearly new , i had smoked it like 10 or 15 times. So may be i have to continue. | ||
| robert cane Member Username: Pipe_dreams Post Number: 276 Registered: 05-2005 |
I could never achieve the intensity a great va. flake offers in anything but a smallish bowl. How one packs a bowl is a factor that will have a huge factor as to preference towards bowl size. Cutting strips of flake the length of the bowl, then rolling them up and placing them crepe-like in the bowl allows wonderful air flow and has always worked greatly for Me. Nothing is lost, as far as complexity. I could see rubbing a flake out almost completely, then smoking it in a larger bowl, although it defeats the purpose of a flake. The bottom line is to experiment and do what works best for You. |