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     Chris Peterson Member Username: Dustb Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2006 |
In the USA I think they're often refered to as "military mount" pipes so that none of the services is favored by name association with this wonderful style of pipe mount. I've got two questions I guess, gentlemen. First, I just love this style of pipe, whether it's a spigot or not. Easy to clean, easy to leave to dry out (disassembled), and easy to carry (disassembled also) so that there's little risk of breakage. Best of all, you can break it apart while the pipe is hot and remove all moisture. Second to best, the pipe just looks great--especially with a sterling band, but all the other bands look good too. For so many reasons they're my favorite pipes to use. First question: who's woth me in loving this style? Second question: It is easier to use a pipe cleaner to wipe out all moisture mid-bowl, yes, but do you have the impression that the army mount generates a bit more moisture than a standard? I think there's more surface area for condensation within the pipe, and a longer, wider channel where the conical bit is inserted. I'm sure there's greater space further in where the tenon doesn't reach, thus allowing more surface area upon which condensation accumulates. Does this make sense? Does it confirm your experience when smoking army mounts? I don't know if I'm reliable on this, since it's only an impression, but I think I use two pipe cleaners in the course of one large bowlful instead of one, which I do with standard mount pipes. Anyone else have this impression? Thank you all for your consideration. | ||
| Chris Peterson Member Username: Dustb Post Number: 4 Registered: 08-2006 |
Whoops! Of course what I meant to say was the first question is: "Who's WITH me in loving this style?" Very sorry. | ||
| James MacKay Member Username: Bigjim Post Number: 60 Registered: 09-2008 |
I'm with you Chris. I'm a big Peterson fan and most are "military mounts". I prefer the bent style. Yes, they do seem to accumulate moisture and that's probably why that trap is where it is! I clean my pipes with a pipe cleaner and a Q-tip after each bowl and once a month with 190 proof Everclear. It helps keep them clean and I think smoke drier. I also cut back the tenon tip on the stem of any Peterson that burns wetter than "normal". I have no idea how or why, but cutting back the tenon tip helps them smoke drier. Maybe the tip is too close to the air hole which increases turbulence in the pipe. No idea, but it works. I buy quite a few estate pipes and the Petersons automatically get repeated salt & alcohol treatments before they go into my rotation. It cleans and dries them out and gets them ready for their new life. I also own several Il Ceppo and Ser Jacopo pipes that have a modified military mount. Modified in that there is a close fit between the stem and shank on those pipes which reduces surface area. They all burn very dry. They also have a larger air hole which probably helps account for their drier smoking. I think that the key to quality pipe smoking lies in maintenance. Keep them clean and rested. You will eliminate countless problems! Regards. | ||
| Harvey Click Member Username: Fafhrd Post Number: 1389 Registered: 03-2006 |
--"First question: who's woth me in loving this style? " I am! I love them for the same reasons you articulated, and I think all pipes should have military mounts. Military mounts are just one more reason why I'm a confirmed Peterson nut. --"Second question: It is easier to use a pipe cleaner to wipe out all moisture mid-bowl, yes, but do you have the impression that the army mount generates a bit more moisture than a standard?" I think you're right. Even without a System well, the military mounts have enough space between smoke hole and tenon to encourage condensation. Of course this means the smoke that enters your mouth is drier, which IMO is a plus. | ||
| Chris Peterson Member Username: Dustb Post Number: 5 Registered: 08-2006 |
James, how jealous I am of you running across Peterson army/military mounts in the estate market. I love picking up good estate pipes, and to name drop just a little, I have fantastic examples from GBD, Sasieni, Charatan, and Stanwell. While I love each of those pipes and wouldn't change a thing of their look, I look at them and think, "blast, I wish this could be an army mount pipe." Like you I've got a few Peterson System pipes, two 31s and a 306. (I like a straight pipe myself, but have to have a few bents so that I know their pleasure and can count myself informed.) I follow your regimen for cleaning the system well also, but I'm not as diligent in the regular montly cleaning department. I also didn't know to look for Il Ceppo and Ser Jacopo for modified military mounts. Of course I'll need to investigate that! Harvey, now that I've run a search on this topic (after posting it, so all readers are invited to call me a fool from now on and be right) I see you've posted on all army/military mount threads and are their greatest champion! They are the best aren't they? I never thought that the greater condensation in the space between the tenon and the smoke hole might make for a drier smoke--thanks for pointing that out. I've got a half-dozen Peterson Silver Army Mounts and two Nording spigots. I've also picked up a very inexpensive Wessex Brigade spigot, which is perfectly and beatifully tooled, but for no reason I can spot is my worst smoker. Another reason army/military mounts are wonderful is that the stem can be replaced so easily. Doesn't need a pipe repair person. All you and I need to do is get a Peterson replacement army mount stem, which on all my straight Silver Mounted Army pipes are standard in size and length, and write for it in the mail. Once received, it fits instantly! I started with the Silver Mounted Army line because I wanted to find out what the P-lip is all about. It's fine, but I'm thinking of picking up some of the fishtail bits used on the Irish Army series, so again, an easy change is made and I'm a very happy piper. I guess I'm a Peterson nut too, since like Dunhill and Ashton, they're still devoted to making lines with army mounts and are so very reasonably priced. They don't disgrace the name either. Thanks very much for your replies, gentlemen. I too wish all pipes had these mounts. | ||
| Chuck Wright Member Username: Truckerchuck Post Number: 1098 Registered: 05-2004 |
Me too! Peterson System nut, that is. And now that you mention it, I guess I do notice more condensaton with them. | ||
| JeffD Member Username: Jeffd Post Number: 84 Registered: 01-2008 |
Besides the condensation, the only issue I have with military mounts is being afflicted with Pete Drop. There's something pretty about seeing a chunk of briar spinning through the air, spewing bits of flaming tobacco, but it's something I'd rather avoid. ;) | ||
| Chris Peterson Member Username: Dustb Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2006 |
I hear you Jeff, I sure hope that doesn't happen because I too like to keep my pipes in good shape and looking like it. No doubt it'll happen when I least expect it. Oddly, it hasn't happened to me yet. I read in another thread that cold weather can help to bring this on in military mounts, but I've been smoking them outside through four winters, I think it has been, and haven't had that happen yet. | ||
| Harvey Click Member Username: Fafhrd Post Number: 1391 Registered: 03-2006 |
--"All you and I need to do is get a Peterson replacement army mount stem, which on all my straight Silver Mounted Army pipes are standard in size and length, and write for it in the mail. Once received, it fits instantly!" Chris, do you order your stems straight from Peterson or do you have another source? I e-mailed Peterson once wanting a replacement stem for a military mount, and they wanted me to ship the pipe all the way to Ireland so they could fit the stem. | ||
| Harvey Click Member Username: Fafhrd Post Number: 1392 Registered: 03-2006 |
--"Besides the condensation, the only issue I have with military mounts is being afflicted with Pete Drop. There's something pretty about seeing a chunk of briar spinning through the air, spewing bits of flaming tobacco, but it's something I'd rather avoid. ;)" Yeah, be careful with a military mount if you step from a warm house into the cold outdoors. The temperature change causes the stem to loosen. | ||
| Chris Peterson Member Username: Dustb Post Number: 7 Registered: 08-2006 |
Harvey, You make me into a bigger idiot than I thought I was. So sorry. I've written my assumption about information and thus been quite inaccurate. My regrets to Mr. Schwartz in particular, and all readers in general. I'm in the USA, and purchased my Peterson military mount pipes from Cupojoes, a major Peterson distributor, and a place where they advertise if you don't see it there, to write, and with regard to Peterson, probably get it. (I'm always happy with the fine service here too.) I assumed that it would be easy to get replacement military mount stems through such a business, since military mount stems on my straight Peterson pipes are interchangeable. I was wrong about that. Cupojoes tells me that I have to contact a pipe repair business and ask if a military mount stem can be made for my pipe. My sincere regrets for my misleading mistake. | ||
| Harvey Click Member Username: Fafhrd Post Number: 1399 Registered: 03-2006 |
Well, Chris, your mistake is a very small one at worst. I do think Cupojoes (if not, then some other US pipe e-tailer) sells real Peterson replacement stems for the Pete System pipes, so it doesn't seem too unlikely that some US store somewhere stocks replacement stems for the Irish Army and Silver Army Mount pipes. I just wish I could find one that does. | ||
| Gig Azar Member Username: Gigazar Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2007 |
Love the Peterson Sys mount pipes. They are a great practical smoking delivery system, pipe.  | ||
| James MacKay Member Username: Bigjim Post Number: 66 Registered: 09-2008 |
You can purchase System replacement stems from pipesandcigars.com. They have a pretty good selection for $16 plus shipping. I have ordered System stems from them and their service is great. Peterson will refer you to a gentleman in Florida for all stem replacements if you are in the USA. You have to send him your pipe. Send Peterson an email and they will advise his name and address. | ||
| Harvey Click Member Username: Fafhrd Post Number: 1404 Registered: 03-2006 |
--" Peterson will refer you to a gentleman in Florida for all stem replacements if you are in the USA. You have to send him your pipe. Send Peterson an email and they will advise his name and address." Thanks for the info, James. This is good to know. Two or 3 years ago Peterson wanted me to ship a pipe to Ireland for a stem replacement. I'm glad that is no longer necessary. | ||
| James MacKay Member Username: Bigjim Post Number: 67 Registered: 09-2008 |
Here's the contact info Harvey; Schulte's Pipe Repair Service 678 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach FL 32962 U. S. A. Phone: 772 564 0079 | ||
| Harvey Click Member Username: Fafhrd Post Number: 1408 Registered: 03-2006 |
Thanks much, James! | ||
| Fr. Boniface Copelin Member Username: Fatherb Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2009 |
Gentlemen, The military and system stems for Petersons are indeed available off the shelf. Take a look at www.duckworthsuk.com or http://www.uktobacco.com/acatalog/Peterson_Pipe_Accessories.html. |