| Author | Message | ||
     Adam Trumpey Member Username: Trumpster7 Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2009 |
I am considering buying a "system" pipe to keep the spittle out of my smoke. Was wondering 1. what the major differences were between Peterson and savinelli. 2.One place said that the savinelli had a filter. Does this affect the quality of the smoke? 3.Is it worth the extra money to get the pipes with the "system"? 4. One more question- I read that the sherlock holmes pipes came with the standard system. Are there any other models that use the system which dont specifically specify in the name (like the holmes line)? | ||
| Christopher Roberts Member Username: Fireglow Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2009 |
Hi Adam. If I remember right, the Savinelli pipes which take filters are not System pipes. There are two schools of thought on filter pipes: one that says they affect your smoking and one that says they don't. From personal experience (having over 100 filter pipes) the filter DOES affect the draw, but not enough as to render the smoke unpleasant. Benefits of a filter include a cooler smoke and the fact that the filter traps moisture, juices, bits of ash and nicotine. About the extra money: It depends on if you're a wet smoker (you drool when you smoke--like I do) or a dry smoker. I kinda have to use a system pipe once in awhile becuase the smoke stimulates my salivary glands which causes me to be a "wet" smoker and the system keeps my spit away from the tobacco. However, there are also Carey Magic Inch pipes and Duncan Hill Aerosphere pipes which are "system" pipes and don't cost as much as Petersons and Savinellis (and work just as well!) About the Sherlock Holmes pipe: I honestly can't remember. A quick look at Peterson's website should answer that question, though. Hope this helps! | ||
| W. A. Lanman Member Username: Blenheimbard Post Number: 151 Registered: 01-2009 |
Adam The word "system" does not necessarily mean the same thing with every pipe manufacturer. A "system" Peterson refers to the use of a "well" to collect any condensation caused with the opening up of the air flow channel in the pipes. In the Carey Magic Inch pipes (that C. Roberts mentioned) it is a little paper "sock" ["papryte filter"] located in a "carbourator" chamber in the stem. The carb is designed to cool the smoke, which can be important if you smoke quickly on any tobacco with a lot of sugar (Virginias and any sweetened "aros") and the sock absorbs the moisture that come from the gas expansion. With Savinelli and Brigham pipe they use "system" to refer to their filter systems. A whole raft of pipemakers have imitated the Peterson "system" pipes, and may use the word in their write ups, but you must beware, for as you see the word has no industry standard for its use. Good luck, Al (in Canada) | ||
| Robert McGee Member Username: 1345 Post Number: 115 Registered: 07-2004 |
i have both sav filter and pete system pipes, and both offer an excellent smoke imo. a major difference for me is the p-lip bit, which i tend to prefer | ||
| Adam Trumpey Member Username: Trumpster7 Post Number: 5 Registered: 08-2009 |
thanks guys! I was already leaning toward the peterson. I will definitely check out carey's magic inch. | ||
| Gene Szymanski Member Username: Lt_taz Post Number: 51 Registered: 02-2005 |
Mr. Trumpey, Sir while on the E.A. Carey web site, I suggest you also check the "Duncan Hill" pipes known as Aerosphere. Just a thought, the Carey Magic Inch of the 60's & 70's where better crafted then those of today and in MHO the Aerosphere is superior to the Magic Inch. | ||
| Adam Trumpey Member Username: Trumpster7 Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2009 |
thanks. ya, that was going to be my next questions. But what about the duncan hill vs magic inch carey mark iv legacy pipes? any thoughts? | ||
| Paul Tummers Member Username: Paul_tummers Post Number: 168 Registered: 12-2007 |
I think, the Peterson well system is the best if you produce a lot of moisture during smoking which can be caused by wet smoking or smoking moist tobacco in a pipe with a large tobacco chamber, and because the conical army jointing it easily can be emptied while smoking. There is no difference in taste because the smoke is not forced to pass through any material like balsa os charcoal eg. The only negative thing of it, is that you must keep the pipe upright when there is much moisture in the well, if you put down the pipe flat on it's side, the moisture will flood the tobacco.I experienced this myself also with an empty pipe which I forgot to clean the well from and after smoking did put it in a pocket of my jacket; the smell which suddenly came up alone already told me, there was something wrong, but luckily it was a tweed jacket of reddish brown colour , so the brown spot did blend in well ;). | ||
| Robert Member Username: Simstick Post Number: 17 Registered: 03-2009 |
The Savinelli balsa fiter is triangular so the actual smoke goes around the filter. I am guessing that it is used as a sponge to collect the condensation that forms on the inside wall of the stem. Another discussion about filters here: http://forum.pipes.org/~discus/discus/messages/26/25193.html And from the Savinelli USA website: http://www.savinelliusa.com/balsa.htm | ||
| Jeff Member Username: Smokinoboe Post Number: 37 Registered: 09-2008 |
I have two Savinelli Dry Systems [both 2622 shape, with p-lips], and a Peterson system 317 pipe [fishtail bit], all three of which utilize the very same well-drilling method. The Savs both use the balsa filter in addition to the moisture trap [or else you could use the adapter]. All 3 smoke wonderfully. The major difference is that it took me a very long time to be able to appropriately pack the small peterson bowl. I honestly haven't been able to tell much difference in tongue bite between the p-lip and the fishtail bits. |